The point of this discussion is well summed up by the dedication in David Murrow's second book:
This book is dedicated to 3 women - she who prays for her man but sees no change, she whose son has abandoned the faith, and she who searches for a Christian mate but finds none.The female host reckoned that speaks to about 90% of women. The chat started with understanding how difficult it is for men in the church today.
More of David Murrow's own story:
I got so frustrated with Christianity, I began to wonder if I could be a Christian and a man at the same time. Our church was such a cautious place, such a nurturing place. And then i'd open up the scriptures and Jesus was anything but that. I began to realise that if Christ came to our church that he would probably be thrown out. He would be considered unfit to lead.
On how we've twisted the gospel:
150 years ago - If you went up to a pastor and asked for 'a personal relationship with Jesus' they wouldn't know what you're talking about. But now we've brought in metaphors like that, which takes the gospel and expresses it in terms of a woman's greatest desire - a personal relationship with a man who loves her.
On why some "worship" songs just don't cut it:
A man is going to express his love in terms of respect not romance. I'm not going to say "Ryan. I'm desperate for you. I'm lost without you. I'm so in love with you." You feel how weird that is?
Speaking about helping men find God, he says "you gotta realise that church may not be the way it's going to happen - or you need to find a church that understands men... Help them find other goldy men to hang out with." It's not a macho thing, It's about bringing a healthy masculine spirit, that's present in the gospel, into the church.
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